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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by RoamingLT</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/03/23/moodle-2-frustrations/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>RoamingLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 12:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

We do something similar to this, so I think this is possible.

From your define roles page /admin/roles/manage.php pick the role with permissions closest to the one you want for this observer role (probably the non-editing teacher role if you have it).

Click on the x2 icon next to it to make a duplicate. Give it a new name, shortname, etc.

Make sure you pick a role archetype - this way when new capabilities come along later this role will be granted the permissions of the archetype (learnt this the hard way).

Skim through the permissions and add/remove as suitable for the observers. One you *will* need is &quot;View courses without participation&quot; (moodle/course:view)

Under &#039;Context types where this role may be assigned&#039; make sure system and category are ticked.

Then go to the assign system roles page /admin/roles/assign.php?contextid=1 and give a test user your new role, and test to see if it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>We do something similar to this, so I think this is possible.</p>
<p>From your define roles page /admin/roles/manage.php pick the role with permissions closest to the one you want for this observer role (probably the non-editing teacher role if you have it).</p>
<p>Click on the x2 icon next to it to make a duplicate. Give it a new name, shortname, etc.</p>
<p>Make sure you pick a role archetype &#8211; this way when new capabilities come along later this role will be granted the permissions of the archetype (learnt this the hard way).</p>
<p>Skim through the permissions and add/remove as suitable for the observers. One you *will* need is &#8220;View courses without participation&#8221; (moodle/course:view)</p>
<p>Under &#8216;Context types where this role may be assigned&#8217; make sure system and category are ticked.</p>
<p>Then go to the assign system roles page /admin/roles/assign.php?contextid=1 and give a test user your new role, and test to see if it works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/03/23/moodle-2-frustrations/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 12:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, good to see intelligent people have noticed the loss of basic functionality (or the removal of it completely in the case of 2.2 &quot;file management&quot;).  

I am trying to give a colleague (soon to be plural) access to my courses in an &quot;observer role&quot;.  Like a superguest, or ofsted inspector, who can walk into your courses and have a look round, maybe leave a comment but otherwise not edit or interfere with the lesson.  I want them to see what good things I am doing without being in the gradebook.  I thought I could make them a site-wide non-editing teacher and then reduce some of their permissions.  No such luck.

No such role exists and if I create a cohort I have this lengthy procedure via &quot;enrolment methods&quot; for each and every course within my various categories, SEPARATELY.

This is crazy, and not for the first time I have wasted so much time re-enabling a legacy solution that would do the job to find it doesn&#039;t work... then google, then moodle docs ... no solution.  Don&#039;t suppose you have any idea how I do this since google has brought me to you.  Sure you&#039;ve got better things to do, but then so have I and I&#039;m getting really frustrated. If you get within kicking range, kick them harder for me, or point them out to me and I&#039;ll help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, good to see intelligent people have noticed the loss of basic functionality (or the removal of it completely in the case of 2.2 &#8220;file management&#8221;).  </p>
<p>I am trying to give a colleague (soon to be plural) access to my courses in an &#8220;observer role&#8221;.  Like a superguest, or ofsted inspector, who can walk into your courses and have a look round, maybe leave a comment but otherwise not edit or interfere with the lesson.  I want them to see what good things I am doing without being in the gradebook.  I thought I could make them a site-wide non-editing teacher and then reduce some of their permissions.  No such luck.</p>
<p>No such role exists and if I create a cohort I have this lengthy procedure via &#8220;enrolment methods&#8221; for each and every course within my various categories, SEPARATELY.</p>
<p>This is crazy, and not for the first time I have wasted so much time re-enabling a legacy solution that would do the job to find it doesn&#8217;t work&#8230; then google, then moodle docs &#8230; no solution.  Don&#8217;t suppose you have any idea how I do this since google has brought me to you.  Sure you&#8217;ve got better things to do, but then so have I and I&#8217;m getting really frustrated. If you get within kicking range, kick them harder for me, or point them out to me and I&#8217;ll help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pirate Party a single issue party? by Erik Lönroth</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/05/08/pirate-party-a-single-issue-party/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Lönroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well spoken and I agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well spoken and I agree!</p>
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		<title>Comment on new blog code by RoamingLT</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2006/09/22/new-blog-code/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>RoamingLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how times change. Anyone reading this will note that this site now uses Wordpress :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how times change. Anyone reading this will note that this site now uses WordPress <img src='http://www.learning-technologist.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by RoamingLT</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/03/23/moodle-2-frustrations/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>RoamingLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know! The number of times I&#039;ve read that and wanted to kick someone! Cohorts are great, could do better, but great. But whatever they are, they are NOT a replacement for category level effin&#039; enrolments!

Breathe ... must ... breathe ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know! The number of times I&#8217;ve read that and wanted to kick someone! Cohorts are great, could do better, but great. But whatever they are, they are NOT a replacement for category level effin&#8217; enrolments!</p>
<p>Breathe &#8230; must &#8230; breathe &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by Steve Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, but I&#039;d be happy if you could just set cohort enrolments at the category level so you don&#039;t have to do it in every course. What bugs me is that Cohorts are shoved down your throat the entire time you&#039;re trying to set up a category enrolment; on the docs page for category enrolments and also when you edit this enrolment method&#039;s &quot;settings&quot; it just says &quot;Category enrolment plugin is a legacy solution for enrolments at the course category level via role assignments. It is recommended to use cohort synchronisation instead.&quot; with NO settings whatsoever. Yet cohorts don&#039;t offer the same functionality. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but I&#8217;d be happy if you could just set cohort enrolments at the category level so you don&#8217;t have to do it in every course. What bugs me is that Cohorts are shoved down your throat the entire time you&#8217;re trying to set up a category enrolment; on the docs page for category enrolments and also when you edit this enrolment method&#8217;s &#8220;settings&#8221; it just says &#8220;Category enrolment plugin is a legacy solution for enrolments at the course category level via role assignments. It is recommended to use cohort synchronisation instead.&#8221; with NO settings whatsoever. Yet cohorts don&#8217;t offer the same functionality. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by RoamingLT</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/03/23/moodle-2-frustrations/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>RoamingLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately I don&#039;t care about sticky blocks, so I don&#039;t have to worry about them. From the sound of it if I did care I&#039;d be pulling out even more hair :/

I agree with you about cohorts - but we are looking at some development to tweak a 3rd party plugin that will automatically create, populate, and sync cohorts from our LDAP.

We will still have to manually assign cohorts to courses.

The missing functionality IMO in this workflow is then linking cohorts into groups.

e.g. If I had 3 groups in LDAP called Psych-101-A, Psych-1-1-B, and Psych-101-C I&#039;d like each to become a cohort. I&#039;d then pipe all three into a single course called &#039;Psych 101&#039;, and then within that course I&#039;d pipe each into a separate group/grouping. That would then let me not only sync enrolments into courses, but also into groups/groupings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately I don&#8217;t care about sticky blocks, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about them. From the sound of it if I did care I&#8217;d be pulling out even more hair :/</p>
<p>I agree with you about cohorts &#8211; but we are looking at some development to tweak a 3rd party plugin that will automatically create, populate, and sync cohorts from our LDAP.</p>
<p>We will still have to manually assign cohorts to courses.</p>
<p>The missing functionality IMO in this workflow is then linking cohorts into groups.</p>
<p>e.g. If I had 3 groups in LDAP called Psych-101-A, Psych-1-1-B, and Psych-101-C I&#8217;d like each to become a cohort. I&#8217;d then pipe all three into a single course called &#8216;Psych 101&#8242;, and then within that course I&#8217;d pipe each into a separate group/grouping. That would then let me not only sync enrolments into courses, but also into groups/groupings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by Steve Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.learning-technologist.net/2012/03/23/moodle-2-frustrations/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on all of these gripes, except of course the permissions issues related to your installation ;-)

It seems to me that, despite many enhancements and new features which will no doubt benefit teaching staff and students, Moodle 2 is designed to significantly increase the workload of administrative staff. A good example is the new &quot;cohort sync&quot;, which is intended to replace category enrolments. Each cohort is a group of users with no assigned role within the cohort. This means you need a new cohort for each role you wish to assign. Once you&#039;ve created and populated the cohort you then have to add each cohort to each applicable course, choosing the role in the process. There is no option to assign a cohort to a role in all modules within a category, and so without significant development (which, thankfully, we have) it creates a huge administrative burden. Even then, I&#039;m still struggling to get it working properly.

I hadn&#039;t even realised the hidden assignment issue, so thanks for that one. Have you worked out &quot;sticky blocks&quot; yet? I managed to get help from Tim Hunt to set mine up, but teachers can still move or hide the blocks within courses, so a core-code change (or &quot;local plugin&quot;) may be required. See http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=195874 for my initial rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on all of these gripes, except of course the permissions issues related to your installation <img src='http://www.learning-technologist.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It seems to me that, despite many enhancements and new features which will no doubt benefit teaching staff and students, Moodle 2 is designed to significantly increase the workload of administrative staff. A good example is the new &#8220;cohort sync&#8221;, which is intended to replace category enrolments. Each cohort is a group of users with no assigned role within the cohort. This means you need a new cohort for each role you wish to assign. Once you&#8217;ve created and populated the cohort you then have to add each cohort to each applicable course, choosing the role in the process. There is no option to assign a cohort to a role in all modules within a category, and so without significant development (which, thankfully, we have) it creates a huge administrative burden. Even then, I&#8217;m still struggling to get it working properly.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t even realised the hidden assignment issue, so thanks for that one. Have you worked out &#8220;sticky blocks&#8221; yet? I managed to get help from Tim Hunt to set mine up, but teachers can still move or hide the blocks within courses, so a core-code change (or &#8220;local plugin&#8221;) may be required. See <a href="http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=195874" rel="nofollow">http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=195874</a> for my initial rant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moodle 2 Frustrations by RoamingLT</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoamingLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: folder:view capability

It seems this is unset by default for the student role but should be set by default for the authenticated user role - it wasn&#039;t for me (boo) but at least the default isn&#039;t CRAZY like I worried it might be (yay)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: folder:view capability</p>
<p>It seems this is unset by default for the student role but should be set by default for the authenticated user role &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t for me (boo) but at least the default isn&#8217;t CRAZY like I worried it might be (yay)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ten for Trust: Trust Anchor Vouching In Your Own Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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